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Pied x Black Stilt hybrid.
It has a Pied Stilt partner and 2 kids.

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Pied Stilt - Photo (c) Steve Attwood, all rights reserved
clinton's ID: Pied Stilt (Himantopus leucocephalus)
Posted by clinton 6 months ago (Flag)
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Pied × Black Stilt - Photo (c) Steve Attwood, all rights reserved
marystg's ID: Pied × Black Stilt (Himantopus leucocephalus × novaezelandiae)
Posted by marystg 6 months ago (Flag)
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Pied × Black Stilt - Photo (c) Steve Attwood, all rights reserved
vicfazio3's ID: Pied × Black Stilt (Himantopus leucocephalus × novaezelandiae)
Posted by vicfazio3 6 months ago (Flag)
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Thanks folks

Mary, you managed to get the site to give the x
I knew it was there cos I was the reason Jon put it on several years ago.
I didn't try the latin, guess that was the secret.
:)

Posted by grahame 6 months ago (Flag)
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Pied × Black Stilt - Photo (c) Steve Attwood, all rights reserved
grahame's ID: Pied × Black Stilt (Himantopus leucocephalus × novaezelandiae)
Posted by grahame 6 months ago (Flag)
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I searched observations and copied what I could see had worked before :)

Posted by marystg 6 months ago (Flag)
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Without genetic analysis of this bird there is no way of knowing if it is simply a melanistic pied stilt or a hybrid.

Posted by clinton 6 months ago (Flag)
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That is a significant change from past information, @clinton. Does it imply that hybridisation between black and pied stilts is less widespread than originally thought?

Posted by marystg 6 months ago (Flag)
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@clinton, while it's accepted that black stilt are a melanistic form of pied, I haven't read any papers that suggest it's still ongoing.
So while yes I agree you are technically correct, the current thoughts would make this a hybrid.
To be honest based on mannerisms of this bird it would more likely be a leucistic black.
Or even progressive graying as seems to be the case for a percentage of partially leucistic birds.
It fits in comfortably around node e,f,g based on DOC's hybrid node chart.

Posted by grahame 6 months ago (Flag)
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Pied × Black Stilt - Photo (c) Steve Attwood, all rights reserved
grahame's ID: Pied × Black Stilt (Himantopus leucocephalus × novaezelandiae)
Pied × Black Stilt - Photo (c) Steve Attwood, all rights reserved
Community ID: Pied × Black Stilt (Himantopus leucocephalus × novaezelandiae)
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Pied Stilt - Photo (c) Steve Attwood, all rights reserved
clinton's ID: Pied Stilt (Himantopus leucocephalus)
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